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أثبات تحريف الكتاب المقدس: أولا :سفر التكوين
مستر كامل غير متصل
عضو متقدم
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المشاركات: 627
الانضمام: May 2005
مشاركة: #64
أثبات تحريف الكتاب المقدس: أولا :سفر التكوين
اقتباس:  عبد الله عز و جل   كتب/كتبت  
يصراحة أخ نيومان أجد من الصعب جدا ان تجتمع كل هذه الظروف فى فقرة واحدة من الكتاب المقدس...

1- موقع كلمة الولد فى الجملة لا تدل على معنى معين
2- استخدام لفظ الغلام و الطفل و هى الفاظ يندر استخدامها لشاب فى السادسة عشرة من عمره
3-استخدام الفاظ اغرب مثل طرحت و تفسيرها تفسيرا جماليا غريبا مرة ثم العودة إلى الترجمة الانجليزية مرة أخرى بالرغم من ان النسخ الانجليزية مختلفة و لا يجوز الرجوع اليها من وجهة نظرك
4- عدم وجود دور للغلام فى القصة و كأنى به أبكم أو عاجز  
5- سماع الرب لصوت الغلام و لا أدرى أى صوت هذا سوى أن يكون بكاء طفل لعدم وجود أى كلام له فى النص

و بعد اصرارك الغريب على تفسير معنى الجملة على هواك و الاصرار على ان النسخة الانجليزية مترجمة خطأ ( دلالة على جهل مترجمها ) و انه يجب الرجوع للنص العبرى ( و لا ادرى هل من المفترض ان اكون عالما بالعبرية لاقرأ الكتاب المقدس)  

فلا استطيع ان اقول بعد ذلك إلا  :nocomment:

و لنترك الحكم للقارئ

و فى انتظار تعقيب مستر كامل


سعدت بلقائى معك :97:


شكرا لك أخى عبد الله ,

الموضوع منتهى والكلام واضح جدا والفهم بالانجليزى يجب أن يكون هو نفس الفهم بالعربى ... ولا الراجل الانجليزى مثلا من حقه يفهم المواضيع بطريقة والعربى بطريقة أخرى:nocomment:

الخلاصة : أن ابن عمره 16 سنة بالغ لا يمكن أن يطلق عليه لفظ طفل ... وهذا ينسف أولا كل هذا النقاش الطويل عن العربى والانجليزى

ثانيا : بدلا من أن يساعد الرجل امه فهو مطروح فى اللفة يبكى تحت الشجرة:loveya: , وأمه لا تريد رؤية الولد وهو يموت.

ثالثا : لا يمكن أن تحمله امه على كتفها كما نقرأ ... هو اللى المفروض يحمل امه على كتفه:nocomment:

التفنيد والحجج لا رد لها ... وهكذا يكون قد اثبتنا هذا التحريف البين وايضا أثبتنا هذه العنصرية والكراهية (ابن الجارية ... ) فى الكتاب المقدس

العجيب هؤلاء اليهود (ابناء اسحاق) من حقدهم على الاسماعيليين جعلوا كتابهم أضحوكة بأيديهم لا بيد غيرهم.

و شكرا للأخ عبد الله عز وجل على مداخلاته و اضافاته التى أثرت التوبيك.

تحياتى
05-31-2005, 02:45 PM
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