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نحن امام اعلانات عن ثلاثة اشخاص ( اقانيم ) لها صفات واعمال لاتليق الا بالله وحده ، وهذه الاعلانات تلزمنا بالايمان في وحدانية الله الجامعة ...

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عزيزى السريانى :

ملخص مداخلتك أن جنابك تعتبر النصوص الواضحه وضوح الشمس التى تدل على الوحدانيه المطلقه دون ثالوث مجرد إستنتاجات , وفى المقابل تعتبر من لم يرد بشانه أى نص صريح فى الكتاب المقدس إعلان واضح وصريح !!!

لم ارى فى حياتى منطق كهذا !!!!!.


وللتبسيط الشديد , والإختصار قدر الإمكان :

إليك بعض النصوص من كتابك المقدس , تتسم بالوضوح الشديد ولاتحتمل أى لبس أو تأويل ن والتى تؤكد على الوحدانيه المطلقه لله دون ثالوث أو رابوع :

جاء في إشعياء 45 :5
[5أَنَا الرَّبُّ وَلَيْسَ آخَرُ. لاَ إِلهَ سِوَايَ. نَطَّقْتُكَ وَأَنْتَ لَمْ تَعْرِفْنِي. 6لِكَيْ يَعْلَمُوا مِنْ مَشْرِقِ الشَّمْسِ وَمِنْ مَغْرِبِهَا أَنْ لَيْسَ غَيْرِي. أَنَا الرَّبُّ وَلَيْسَ آخَرُ. 7مُصَوِّرُ النُّورِ وَخَالِقُ الظُّلْمَةِ، صَانِعُ السَّلاَمِ وَخَالِقُ الشَّرِّ. أَنَا الرَّبُّ صَانِعُ كُلِّ هذِهِ. 8اُقْطُرِي أَيَّتُهَا السَّمَاوَاتُ مِنْ فَوْقُ، وَلْيُنْزِلُ الْجَوُّ بِرًّا. لِتَنْفَتِحِ الأَرْضُ فَيُثْمِرَ الْخَلاَصُ، وَلْتُنْبِتْ بِرًّا مَعًا. أَنَا الرَّبَّ قَدْ خَلَقْتُهُ.].

مرقس 12 :32 من الترجمةالعربية الجديدة بيروت - دار الكتاب المقدس في العالم العربي
[أحسنت يا معلم فأنت على حق في قولك إن الله واحد لا إله إلا هو].

وفي ترجمة الفاندايك
مرقس 12 :32
[ 32فَقَالَ لَهُ الْكَاتِبُ:«جَيِّدًا يَا مُعَلِّمُ. بِالْحَقِّ قُلْتَ، لأَنَّهُ اللهُ وَاحِدٌ وَلَيْسَ آخَرُ سِوَاهُ. 33وَمَحَبَّتُهُ مِنْ كُلِّ الْقَلْبِ، وَمِنْ كُلِّ الْفَهْمِ، وَمِنْ كُلِّ النَّفْسِ، وَمِنْ كُلِّ الْقُدْرَةِ، وَمَحَبَّةُ الْقَرِيبِ كَالنَّفْسِ، هِيَ أَفْضَلُ مِنْ جَمِيعِ الْمُحْرَقَاتِ وَالذَّبَائِحِ». 34فَلَمَّا رَآهُ يَسُوعُ أَنَّهُ أَجَابَ بِعَقْل، قَالَ لَهُ:«لَسْتَ بَعِيدًا عَنْ مَلَكُوتِ اللهِ». وَلَمْ يَجْسُرْ أَحَدٌ بَعْدَ ذلِكَ أَنْ يَسْأَلَهُ!].

" الرب إلهنا ... ربٌّ واحد " ( مرقس 12 : 29 ) .

وبما أنك تقول أن الله واحد مثلث الأقانيم , ...........إلخ

فأطلب منك بكل وضوح أن تضع لنا نصا واحدا يقابل هذه النصوص بما يؤكد على أن الله واحد مثلث الأقانيم بشرط أن يكون بنفس وضوح وصراحه النصوص التى أوردتها من كتابك ودون اللجوء إلى إستنتاج أو إلى إستخدام ألفاظك السابقه مثل:

لثالوث ينبع معنويا , أو أنها ليست موجوده لفظا , أو ان عدم ذكر الشيء لاينفي مطلقا وجوده ، فالثالوث موجود رغم غياب حرفه من الاناجيل

لأن هذا الكلام يصبح غير ذى معنى أمام الوضوح الكامل لنصوص الوحدانيه المطلقه البعيده كل البعد عن الثالوث .







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11-19-2007, 04:17 PM
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