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ادعوكم احبائى اسحق والسريانى وفادى لسؤال فما ردكم ؟؟؟
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نظرا لطلبك عزيزى الفاضل اسحق ساتولى الرد على السيد سريانى وبعدها باذن الله انتظر ردك
السيد سريانى يقول ردا على سؤالى
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اذا قلت لابني ، ياابني ماتلعب بالنار احسن ماتنكوي ، يعني ابني راح ينكوي فيها لامحالة ؟؟؟

واذا قلت لابني ، ياصبي ماتلعب في الحاسوب تبعي احسن ماينتزع وتاكل مني كفين ورفسة، هل هذا يعني :
1 - ابني سيخالف اوامري ويلعب في الحاسوب ؟
2 - الحاسوب راح ينتزع ؟
3 - ابني ياكل كفين ورفسة ؟
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عندما تقول لابنك لا تلعب فى الحاسبوب فانت تمنعة ولكنك تعلم تماما انة يمكن ان يلعب فية ولكنك ان قلت لة يا بنى لا تصعد فى الفضاء فهذا لا يمكن لانة يستحيل ان يصعد للفضاء فلذلك لا يمكن ان تقول لة يا بنى لا تصعد للفضاء
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مالذي يجعلك تصل الى مثل هذا الاستنتاج ؟
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العقل والمنطق سيد سريانى والحيادية فى التفكير ــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــ

ليس في التحذير أي دليل على التحريف ... هو استنتاجك الشخصي ولامانع من ان تتمسك به لنفسك عزيزي ...
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اخالفك التحذير يعنى امكانية التحذير ولذلك حذركم الله من ذلك
واضيف ايضا أن الذي يعطي التحذير هو من لا يكون واثقا في قدرته على الحفظ ، فهل من الممكن أن نصدق أن الله غير قادر ؟ بالطبع لا ، اذا أمامنا استنتاجين، أن الله لم يتعهد بحفظ الكتاب المقدس ، أو أن الذي كتب التحذير كتبه من نفسه دون وحي من الله و بهذا يكون التحريف و الاضافة قد حدثا ، فلو أن الله تعهد بحفظ الكتاب المقدس فان التحذير هنا لا مبرر له

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اسئلتك سيدى التى تتهمنى باننى اهملتها اليك الرد باذن الله

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1-اذا كيف يعطي كلاما لمئات الاجيال وهو يعلم بانه لن يثبت ؟
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الله اعطاهم كلماتة نقية غير محرفة ازادوها باعتراف كتابك واعتراف انبيائك كارميا النبى وغيرهم ــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــ

2- كيف يأتي المسيح ويتعلم من التوراة ويعلمها للناس ويستشهد بها وهي محرفة ؟؟؟!!!
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انت تعلم جيد ان التوراة التى فى يدك ليست كمثل التوراة فى ايدى اليهود واكبر دليل عقلى على ذلك ان اليهود لا يعترفون بالمسيح ولا ثبت لك اكثر ان التوراة التى انزلها الله على موسى ماهى صفاتها وحجمها اقرء سيدى وَقَالَ الرَّبُّ لِمُوسَى : اصْعَدْ إِلَى الْجَبَلِ وَامْكُثْ هُنَاكَ لأُعْطِيَكَ الْوَصَايَا وَالشَّرَائِعَ الَّتِي كَتَبْتُهَا عَلَى لَوْحَيِ الْحَجَرِ لِتُلَقِّنَهَا لَهُمْ. )) .
على لوحين من الحجر اترى سيدى لوحين فقط من الممكن ان تقول لى انهم لوحين عظام الحجم والطول فساقول لك خطى انظر كيف كان حجمهم
(( تابوتاً من خشب طوله ذراعان ونصف وعرضه ذراع ونصف وارتفاعه ذراع ونصف ، وتضع في التابوت الشهادة التي أعطيك ))

طوله ذراعان ونصف وعرضه ذراع ونصف وارتفاعه ذراع ونصف

ارئيت ان التوراة تضخمت الاف المرات وانها غير التوراة التى كانت مع المسيح وان اردت التوراة الحقيقية اذهب للقران لتعرف ماهى يا سيدى
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3- وسؤال آخر مهم ... هل من الصعب على محرف الكتاب ان يضع فيه آية على وزن "إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ "؟
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من المستحيل ان يتعهد اى انسان ان يحفظ شىء لا يقدر على ذلك الا الله ودليلى ان كتاب الاناجيل لم يتعهد احدا منهم بانة سيحفظ كتابة وان كانوا قادرين لماذا لم يتعهدوا بذلك؟؟؟ اليس كلامى صحيح ؟؟؟؟
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واخيرا ملاحظة بسيطة ، صاحب القول " وَإِنَّنِي أَشْهَدُ لِكُلِّ مَنْ يَسْمَعُ مَا جَاءَ فِي كِتَابِ النُّبُوءَةِ ..." هو الرسول يوحنا وليس يوحنا المعمدان
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اشكرك على التصحيح لى وااسف على الخطأـــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــ

والان بعد ان اجبتك سيدى على كل تساؤلاتك ارجو الاجابة منك ومن السيد اسحق لماذا يوجد عقوبة لمن يحرف الكتاب المقدس ولا توجد عقوبة واحدة لمن يحرف القران؟؟؟؟؟

واشكرك اخى الفاضل الصاعقة على مرورك الكريم وااسف لانتظارك انت والجميع وباذن الله بعد اجابة السيدان اسحق والسريانى سيفتح باب المناقشة للجميع

ولكم فائق احترامى

اخوكم عبد الرحمن ويصا
02-24-2005, 12:49 AM
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